1 1/2   cups of water about 120 degrees
         1 teaspoon of sugar (optional)
         1 tablespoon of active dry yeast
         1 teaspoon salt (optional)
         4 cups of all purpose flour
         Pour water into a mixing bowl, dissolve in the sugar and yeast..
 When the yeast
         has begun to grow and turns frothy, add the salt and 3 1/2 cups of
 flour.  Mix
         this in the bowl until it pulls away from the sides.
         Turn the dough, which will be quite soft, onto a lightly floured
 surface and
         knead it until smooth and elastic.  Spray the bowl with Pam and
 return the 
         dough to the bowl.  Let rise until doubled, approximately 1 1/2
 hours.  Knock
         it down, place on floured surface and break off marble sized pieces.
 Roll into
         balls and place them on surface to rise for twenty minutes .  Cover
 them while
         they are rising.  Place them in steamer over boiling water for about 30
         minutes.  These are excellent with a Chinese meal.